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2 Optimization for Learning |
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3 ========================= |
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10 Initial Writeup by James |
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15 Previous work - scikits, openopt, scipy provide function optimization |
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27 It can be faster (to run) and more convenient (to implement) to have |
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37 - TONGA |
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127 def minimize(x0, f, df, algo, **kw): |
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128 stop = numpy.array(0, dtype=numpy.int8) |
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129 algo_step = eval(algo)([x0], cost=f, gradients=lambda x: (df(x), ), |
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