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1 Discussion of Function Specification for Dataset Types
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4 Some talking points from the September 2 meeting:
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6 * Datasets as views/tasks (Pascal Vincent's idea): our dataset specification
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7 needs to be flexible enough to accommodate different (sub)tasks and views of
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8 the same underlying data.
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9 * Datasets as probability distributions from which one can sample.
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10 * That's not something I would consider to be a dataset-related problem to
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11 tackle now: a probability distribution in Pylearn would probably be a
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12 different kind of beast, and it should be easy enough to have a
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13 DatasetToDistribution class for instance, that would take care of viewing a
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14 dataset as a probability distribution. -- OD
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15 * Our specification should allow transparent handling of infinite datasets (or
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16 simply datasets which cannot fit in memory)
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17 * GPU/buffering issues.
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19 Commiteee: DE, OB, OD, AB, PV
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20 Leader: DE
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21
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22 Some ideas from existing ML libraries:
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23
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24 - PyML: notion of dataset containers: VectorDataSet, SparseDataSet, KernelData,
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25 PairDataSet, Aggregate. Ultimately, the learner decides
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26 - mlpy: very primitive notions of data (simple 2D matrices)
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27 - PyBrain: Datasets are geared towards specific tasks: ClassificationDataSet,
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28 SequentialDataSet, ReinforcementDataSet, ... Each class is quite
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29 constrained and may have a different interface.
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30 - MDP: Seems to have restrictions on the type of data being passed around, as
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31 well as its dimensionality ("Input array data is typically assumed to be
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32 two-dimensional and ordered such that observations of the same variable are
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33 stored on rows and different variables are stored on columns.")
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34 - Orange: Data matrices, with names and types associated to each column.
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35 Basically there seems to be only one base dataset class that contains the
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36 data. Data points are lists (of values corresponding to each column).
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37 - APGL: Hard to say how they deal with data from the documentation alone.
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38 - Monte: Data is simply numpy arrays.
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39 - scikits.learn: Dataset is a simple container with e.g. dataset.data being
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40 a 2D numpy array of input features, and dataset.target the target vector.
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41 - Shogun: Vade Retro C++! (may be worth looking into their feature concept
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42 though).
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43 - Any more worth looking at?
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44
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45 A few things that our dataset containers should support at a minimum:
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46
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47 - streams, possibly infinite
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48 - task/views of the data for different problems
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49 - indexing & slicing
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50 - pairs or triples or etc of examples
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51 - a 'distance/gram matrix' container (imagine that the data is given to you
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52 as a distance matrix)
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53 - multi-dimensional time-series (again, maybe with pairs/triples, maybe
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54 given to you as a distance matrix over time)
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55
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56 Another question to consider is the following: how tight should it integrate
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57 with Theano? Do we want to be able to store data as shared variables or just
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58 have an option for that? Theano + GPU constrains things that we can do (in terms
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59 of sizes, buffering, etc): these are things we need to think about, but it's not
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60 clear whether we should aim for building them into the interface.
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61
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62 Task views of the data for different problems: How can we achieve this? Should
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63 we simply have a set of standard dataset descriptors ('classification',
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64 'regression', 'multi-label', 'density_estimation') and have a set_view method
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65 that changes the current dataset view type?
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66
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67 There is then the question of how to approach the design of a Dataset class from
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68 an OOP perspective. So far, my (Dumi's) idea is to have an almost 'abstract class'
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69 Dataset that doesn't implement any methods except a few setters/getters. The reason
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70 to have the methods listed that way is to have a common 'specification', but classes
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71 that inherit from Dataset need not implement every single method (only the ones
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72 that are relevant) and can obviously implement other methods as appropriate. The
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73 reason to have a common specification (as abstract as it might be) is to, well,
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74 have a common specification that would make our code clearer and cleaner.
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75
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76 An example of what I (Dumi) am thinking in terms of concrete API:
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77
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78 class Dataset:
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79 def __init__(self):
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80 self.type = None
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81 self.in_memory = None
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82 self.inputs = None # list of filepaths, or objects in memory, or...
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83 self.outputs = None
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84
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85 def get_example(self,example_index):
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86 raise NotImplementedError()
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87
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88 def get_next_example(self):
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89 raise NotImplementedError()
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90
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91 def get_batch(self,batch_index):
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92 raise NotImplementedError()
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93
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94 def get_next_batch(self):
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95 raise NotImplementedError()
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96
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97 def get_slice(self,slice_object):
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98 raise NotImplementedError()
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99
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100 def set_view(self,view_type):
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101 self.view_type = view_type
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102 self.n_classes = None
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103
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104 def set_n_classes(self,n_classes):
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105 self.n_classes = n_classes
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106
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107 def set_batch_size(self,batch_size):
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108 self.batch_size = batch_size
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109
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110 You will note that there is no notion of train/valid/test in this class: I think we should
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111 just have a train dataset, a valid one and a test one instead or (if it's in one
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112 big file or infinite stream) just handle the split ourselves (via slicing, for
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113 instance). I (Dumi) am of the opinion that it keeps things cleaner, but the
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114 specification does not preclude more fine-grained 'splitting' of the data.
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115
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116 A concrete implementation would look like this (we would have one class per
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117 dataset that we use, and the class declaration contains essentially everything
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118 there is to know about the dataset):
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119
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120 class MNIST(Dataset):
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121 def __init__(self,inputs=['train_x.npy'],outputs=['train_y.npy']):
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122 self.type='standard_xy'
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123 self.in_memory = True
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124 self.inputs = inputs # load them or create
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125 self.outputs = outputs
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126 self.set_view('classification')
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127 self.set_n_classes(10)
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128 self.set_batch_size(20)
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129 self.n_batches = self._compute_n_batches()
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130
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131 def get_batch(self,batch_index):
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132 x,y = self._fetch_batch(batch_index)
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133 if self.view_type == 'classification':
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134 return x,numpy.int32(y)
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135 elif self.view_type == 'density_estimation':
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136 return x
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137 else:
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138 raise NotImplementedError()
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139
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140 def shared_data(self):
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141 shared_x = theano.shared(numpy.asarray(self.inputs, dtype=theano.config.floatX))
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142 shared_y = theano.shared(numpy.asarray(self.outputs, dtype=theano.config.floatX))
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143 return shared_x, T.cast(shared_y, 'int32')
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144
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145 def _compute_n_batches(self):
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146 pass
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148 def _fetch_batch(self,batch_index):
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149 pass
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150
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151 But nothing stops you from defining get_train_batch, get_valid_batch and stuff
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152 like that!
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153
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154 So we'd use it as:
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155
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156 train_mnist = MNIST(inputs = ['train_x.npy'], outputs = ['train_y.npy'])
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157 valid_mnist = MNIST(inputs = ['valid_x.npy'], outputs = ['valid_y.npy'])
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159 x,y = train_mnist.get_batch(0)
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160 train_mnist.set_view('density_estimation')
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161 x = train_mnist.get_batch(0)
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163 or
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165 mnist_data = MNIST(inputs = ['x.npy'], outputs = ['y.npy'])
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166 batches_train = range(int(mnist_data.n_batches*0.8))
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167 batches_valid = range(int(mnist_data.n_batches*0.8),mnist_data.n_batches)
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169 xt,yt = mnist_data.get_batch(batches_train[0])
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170 xv,yv = mnist_data.get_batch(batches_valid[0])
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175 COMMENTS
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176 ~~~~~~~~
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178 JB asks: How about asking datasets to also provide a visualization mechanism
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179 for showing / playing individual examples from the dataset, but also other
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180 external objects that are similar to dataset examples (e.g. filters from a
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181 weight matrix that filters images). This doesn't have to be complicated, and it
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182 can be shared between datasets that exist in one modality (e.g. image datasets
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183 can all use an image-rending method)
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185 OD replies: Besides being able to display data without prior knowledge of the
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186 kind of data inside a dataset, is there any reason to put this within the
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188 for the dataset to describe the kind of data it holds, and keep the
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189 visualization code separate from the dataset itself. It would make it easier
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190 in particular to try different visualization systems, and description of the
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191 data may turn out to be useful for other reasons (however, it also means we'd
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192 need to come up with a good way to describe data, which could prove
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193 difficult).
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195 JB asks: What may be passed as argument to the functions in Dataset, and what
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196 can be expected in return? Are there side effects (e.g. on the state of the
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197 Dataset) associated with any of the functions?
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199 JB asks: What properties are part of the Dataset API? What possible types can
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200 they have, are they expected to be read-only or writeable? What do they mean?
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203 JB asks: What is a view? Does set_view change the Dataset or return a new
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204 Dataset with a certain view of the original (in which case call it get_view)?
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205 Does the view imply the types of the return-value of functions like
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206 get_batch? What is the difference between the view and the subclasses of
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207 Dataset in PyML?
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209 JB asks: Do container formats (I'm thinking of HDF5) offer features for fast
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210 retrieval that we would like to expose via this interface?
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212 JB asks: How would you recommend using this sort of dataset in a boosting
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213 algorithm where points need to be re-weighted.
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216 JB asks: Do we want to provide for the possibility of feedback that modifies the
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217 dataset? For example, curriculum learning might be adaptive in this sense, or
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218 if we wanted to provide a virtual world for an agent as a dataset then we need
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219 to provide 'actions' to get the next batch. Could this be done in the current
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220 API?
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223 Field names and attributes
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224 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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226 OD: One important question is how to handle fields' names and characteristics.
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227 For instance, it can be useful to know that the 3rd input field represents a
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228 number of fingers, and is a non-negative discrete field whose numeric value is
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229 meaningful (compared, to, say, an integer index that would correspond to an
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230 animal's category). We mentioned metadata during the meeting, but we did not
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231 get into its details: that may be a place where to put this kind of things.
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234 Freeing memory
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235 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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237 OD: It is sometimes useful to be able to free memory used by previous
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238 computations. A typical example is when you load in memory the original
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239 dataset, then perform various processing steps, ending with a new dataset that
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240 you also store in memory before feeding it to the learner. Unless you very
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241 carefully design your code to avoid it, your original dataset will still
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242 remain in memory (as well as maybe the results of some computations performed
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243 along the way). So there may be a use for a `clear()` method that would be
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244 called by the topmost dataset (the one doing the final memory caching), and
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245 would be forwarded iteratively to previous datasets so as to get back all this
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246 wasted memory space.
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248 What is a mini-batch?
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249 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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250
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251 This is a follow-up to the meeting's discussion about whether a mini-batch
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252 returned by a dataset should be itself a dataset.
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254 OD: During the meeting I was voting in favor of a 'yes', mostly because it
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255 made sense to me (a mini-batch is a subset of a dataset and thus should be a
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256 dataset), but now I tend towards 'no'. The main reason is it is not clear yet
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257 what the dataset interface will be, so that it is hard to judge whether this
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258 is good idea (my main concern is how much additional work would be required by
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259 the writer of a new dataset subclass). Anyway, maybe a first thing we could
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260 think about is what we want a mini-batch to be. I think we can agree that we
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261 would like to be able to do something like:
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262 for mb in dataset.mini_batches(size=10):
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263 learner.update(mb.input, mb.target)
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264 so that it should be ok for a mini-batch to be an object whose fields
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265 (that should have the same name as those of the dataset) are numpy arrays.
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266 More generally, we would like to be able to iterate on samples in a
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267 mini-batch, or do random access on them, so a mini-batch should implement
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268 __iter__ and __getitem__.
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269 Besides this, is there any other typical use-case of a mini-batch? In
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270 particular, is there any reason to want an infinite mini-batch, or a very big
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271 mini-batch that may not fit in memory? (in which case we may need to revise
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272 our idea of what 'mini' means) Hopefully the answer to that last question is
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273 no, as I think it would definitely keep things simpler, since we could simply
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274 use numpy arrays (for numeric data) or lists (for anything else) to store
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275 mini-batches' data. So I vote for 'no'.
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278 to fit in memory. That makes it at least in principle semantically
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279 different from a dataset. But barring that restriction, it might
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280 share of the properties of a dataset.
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282 A dataset is a learner
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283 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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284
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285 OD: (this is hopefully a clearer re-write of the original version from
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286 r7e6e77d50eeb, which I was not happy with).
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287 There are typically three kinds of objects that spit out data:
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288 1. Datasets that are loaded from disk or are able to generate data all by
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289 themselves (i.e. without any other dataset as input)
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290 2. Datasets that transform their input dataset in a way that only depends on
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291 the input dataset (e.g. filtering samples or features, normalizing data, etc.)
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292 3. Datasets that transform their input dataset in a way that is learned on a
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293 potentially different dataset (e.g. PCA when you want to learn the projection
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294 space on the training set in order to transform both the training and test
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295 sets).
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296 My impression currently is that we would use dataset subclasses to handle 1
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297 and 2. However, 3 requires a learner framework, so you would need to have
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298 something like a LearnerOutputDataset(trained_learner, dataset).
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299
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300 Note however that 2 is a special case of 3 (where training does nothing), and
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301 1 is a special case of 2 (where we do not care about being given an input
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302 dataset). Thus you could decide to also implement 1 and 2 as learners wrapped
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303 by LearnerOutputDataset.
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304
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305 The main advantages I find in this approach (that I have been using at
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306 Ubisoft) are:
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307 - You only need to learn how to subclass the learner class. The only dataset
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308 class is LearnerOutputDataset, which you could just name Dataset.
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309 - You do not have different ways to achieve the same result (having to figure
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310 out which one is most appropriate).
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311 - Upgrading code from 2 to 3 is more straighforward. Such a situation can
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312 happen e.g. if you write some code that normalizes your input dataset
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313 (situation 2), then realize later you would like to be able to normalize new
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314 datasets using the same parameters (e.g. same shift & rescaling), which
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315 requires situation 3.
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316 - It can make your life easier when thinking about how to plug things together
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317 (something that has not been discussed yet), because the interfaces of the
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318 various components are less varied.
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319
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320 I am not saying that we should necessarily do it this way, but I think it is
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321 worth at least keeping in mind this close relationship between simple
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322 processing and learning, and thinking about what are the benefits / drawbacks
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323 in keeping them separate in the class hierarchy.
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325 RP: I actually like this idea of having the dataset implement the same
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326 interface as the learner ( or actually a subset of the interface .. ).
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327 I hope people decide to do this.
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329 Support for shared variables
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330 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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332 RP asks: What is the status of having the dataset support copying data
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333 on the GPU ( by storing data in shared variables) ? Have you decided to
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334 include this feature or not ? I think that the strongest selling point of
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335 Theano is that it runs on GPU transperently, and I see this as a good
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336 selling point for the library as well. Plus we intend to move more and
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337 more towards running things on GPU. If the dataset object does not support
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338 this feature we will need to find hacks around it ..
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340 OD: I have like zero experience with GPU so hopefully someone else can answer
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341 this. But the way I see it, hopefully it could work by having some dataset
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342 object that would take care of storing its input data into a shared variable.
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343 OD (continued): After thinking a bit more about it, I am not sure that would
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344 work. I definitely need to look at some code doing it to get a better
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345 understanding of it, but my feeling is that you need your learner to be
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346 written in a specific way to achieve this, in which case it may be up to the
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347 learner to take its input data and store it into a shared variable.
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349 RP comment: Yes, the dataset object alone can not handle this, the issue is somewhere
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350 between the dataset and the learner. Or in other words, everytime you change
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351 the data you need to recompile your theano function. So the learner can not
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352 only get data from the dataset, it needs to get a shared variable. The learner
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353 should also be aware when the dataset is changed, to recompile its internal
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354 functions. I'm not sure which is the best wa to do this. My personal feeling
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355 is that the dataset should be part of the learner. The lerner should provide
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356 a function use_dataset ( or replace_dataset). When this function is called,
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357 all the theano functions in the learner get recompiled based on shared
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358 variables that the dataset object provides. It sort of fits very well in the
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359 framework that I have in mind, which was spattered around in the learner.txt
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360 and some of my previous emails. I think it shares a lot with James concepts,
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361 since it follows quite closely the concepts behind Theano.
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363 OD asks: Ok, so why would the dataset have to be responsible for providing a
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364 shared variable? Why wouldn't the learner just create this shared variable
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365 internally and copy into it the data provided by the dataset?
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367 RP replies: Sure, the learner could take care of all this. Note though that the
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368 learner should take care to divide the dataset into chunks that fit in the
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369 GPU memory ( in case of a large dataset) and then take care of updating the
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370 shared variables acording to the current chunk. Personally I feel like all
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371 this data division, management and so on should be done by the dataset.
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372 It feels more natural that way. For example assume you have a dataset that
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373 is composed of a time series and some static data ( carre-tech heart beat
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374 data is a good example). The static data is small enough so that you could
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375 always store on the GPU, and you would only need to split the time series.
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376 For the learner to do this ( since it gets the same interface from any
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377 dataset object) would be like and if <this case> then, while for the
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378 dataset is just a different class. But I'm happy to have all this GPU stuff
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379 send to the learner as well if everybody else believe that is better.
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381 FB comment: I don't understand why you would need to recompile the theano function.
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382 Their is 2 cases, the data is in a shared variable. You can directly change the data
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383 in the shared variable without recompiling the theano fct. The second case is when
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384 the dataset is in an ordinary theano variable. In that case, the first step in the
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385 theano fct will be to transfer the dataset to the gpu before computation. If the data
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386 change at each call, that will be as efficient as changing the data manually every time
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387 in the shared variable.
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389 AB: I have an idea about this which kind of fits in the "building a
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390 theano op" thing that we talked about at the last meeting.
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392 We can just build a theano Op that wraps dataset objects and takes
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393 care of the details of tranferring data to the GPU or otherwise.
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395 I have a prototype interface/implemantation in the shared_dataset.py
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396 file in this directory.
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Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro>
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398 OD: I like AB's approach.
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