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coding_style: Added note about the need to provide guidelines for serialization-friendly code

author	Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro>
date	Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:21:55 -0400
parents	53340a8df1fa
children	67f4edabb0cc

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1009 dc5185cca21e Added files for Coding Style and Optimization committees Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: diff changeset	1 Discussion of Coding-Style
dc5185cca21e Added files for Coding Style and Optimization committees Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: diff changeset	2 ==========================
dc5185cca21e Added files for Coding Style and Optimization committees Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: diff changeset	3
1017 af80b7d182af coding_style: Added list of participants in the committee Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1009 diff changeset	4 Participants
af80b7d182af coding_style: Added list of participants in the committee Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1009 diff changeset	5 ------------
af80b7d182af coding_style: Added list of participants in the committee Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1009 diff changeset	6 - Dumitru
af80b7d182af coding_style: Added list of participants in the committee Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1009 diff changeset	7 - Fred
af80b7d182af coding_style: Added list of participants in the committee Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1009 diff changeset	8 - David
1028 c6a74b24330b coding_style: Olivier D confirmed as leader Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1025 diff changeset	9 - Olivier D [leader]
1017 af80b7d182af coding_style: Added list of participants in the committee Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1009 diff changeset	10
1103 56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	11 Open for public debate
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	12 ----------------------
1072 04bbf05d249c small comment. Frederic Bastien <nouiz@nouiz.org> parents: 1070 diff changeset	13
1162 4f1b9e0a1377 coding_style: Moved more stuff to API Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1159 diff changeset	14 * File header:
4f1b9e0a1377 coding_style: Moved more stuff to API Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1159 diff changeset	15 - Do we put the accents in 'Universite de Montreal'?
4f1b9e0a1377 coding_style: Moved more stuff to API Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1159 diff changeset	16 OD: No (restricting code to ASCII characters is much safer)
4f1b9e0a1377 coding_style: Moved more stuff to API Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1159 diff changeset	17 - Do we put the Mercurial version number in each file?
4f1b9e0a1377 coding_style: Moved more stuff to API Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1159 diff changeset	18 OD: No (useless in my experience, if it's a release the version
4f1b9e0a1377 coding_style: Moved more stuff to API Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1159 diff changeset	19 number can be provided in the README for instance, and in
4f1b9e0a1377 coding_style: Moved more stuff to API Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1159 diff changeset	20 addition Mercurial IDs cannot be easily compared to figure
4f1b9e0a1377 coding_style: Moved more stuff to API Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1159 diff changeset	21 out which of two versions is most recent)
4f1b9e0a1377 coding_style: Moved more stuff to API Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1159 diff changeset	22
1103 56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	23 * Avoid contractions in code comments (particularly in
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	24 documentation): "We do not add blue to red because it does not look good"
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	25 rather than "We don't add blue to red because it doesn't look good".
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	26 OD: I mostly find it to be cleaner (been used to it while writing
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	27 scientific articles too).
1113 60ef81fe1825 2cents in coding_style James Bergstra <bergstrj@iro.umontreal.ca> parents: 1103 diff changeset	28 JB: +1
1103 56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	29
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	30 * Imperative vs. third-person comments.
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	31 # Return the sum of elements in x. <-- imperative
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	32 # Returns the sum of elements in x. <-- third-person
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	33 OD: I am used to the imperative form and like it better only because it
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	34 typically saves one letter (the 's') and is easier to conjugate.
1113 60ef81fe1825 2cents in coding_style James Bergstra <bergstrj@iro.umontreal.ca> parents: 1103 diff changeset	35 JB: What about being compatible with markup formats that have a :returns:
60ef81fe1825 2cents in coding_style James Bergstra <bergstrj@iro.umontreal.ca> parents: 1103 diff changeset	36 tag?
1128 03b41a79bd60 coding_style: Replies to James' questions / comments Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1123 diff changeset	37 OD: That'd make sense. However, when I wrote the above I hadn't looked
03b41a79bd60 coding_style: Replies to James' questions / comments Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1123 diff changeset	38 closely at PEP257 yet, and I just noticed the following official
03b41a79bd60 coding_style: Replies to James' questions / comments Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1123 diff changeset	39 recommendation for one-line docstrings in it:
03b41a79bd60 coding_style: Replies to James' questions / comments Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1123 diff changeset	40 The docstring is a phrase ending in a period. It prescribes the
03b41a79bd60 coding_style: Replies to James' questions / comments Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1123 diff changeset	41 function or method's effect as a command ("Do this", "Return that"), not as a
03b41a79bd60 coding_style: Replies to James' questions / comments Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1123 diff changeset	42 description; e.g. don't write "Returns the pathname ...".
03b41a79bd60 coding_style: Replies to James' questions / comments Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1123 diff changeset	43 Anyone knows which style is most popular in the open-source
03b41a79bd60 coding_style: Replies to James' questions / comments Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1123 diff changeset	44 community?
1103 56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	45
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	46 * OD: I like always doing the following when subclassing
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	47 a class A:
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	48 class B(A):
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	49 def __init__(self, b_arg_1, b_arg_2, **kw):
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	50 super(B, self).__init__(**kw)
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	51 ...
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	52 The point here is that the constructor always allow for extra keyword
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	53 arguments (except for the class at the very top of the hierarchy), which
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	54 are automatically passed to the parent class.
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	55 Pros:
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	56 - You do not need to repeat the parent class arguments whenever you
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	57 write a new subclass.
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	58 - Whenever you add an argument to the parent class, all child classes
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	59 can benefit from it without modifying their code.
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	60 Cons:
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	61 - One needs to look at the parent classes to see what these arguments
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	62 are.
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	63 - You cannot use a **kw argument in your constructor for your own
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	64 selfish purpose.
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	65 - I have no clue whether one could do this with multiple inheritance.
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	66 - More?
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	67 Question: Should we encourage this in Pylearn?
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	68
1113 60ef81fe1825 2cents in coding_style James Bergstra <bergstrj@iro.umontreal.ca> parents: 1103 diff changeset	69 JB: +0.5
60ef81fe1825 2cents in coding_style James Bergstra <bergstrj@iro.umontreal.ca> parents: 1103 diff changeset	70
1140 7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	71 Closed for public debate
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	72 ------------------------
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	73
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	74 * Use imports for packages and modules only. I.e. avoid
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	75 from foo import *
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	76 from foo import Bar
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	77 OD: Overall I agree with this. However we probably want to allow some
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	78 exceptions, like:
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	79 from itertools import imap, izip
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	80 Also, some people may want to have shortcuts like
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	81 from theano import tensor as T
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	82 but I would prefer to forbid this. It is handy when trying stuff in
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	83 the interactive interpreter, but in real code it can easily get messy
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	84 when you want to copy / paste different pieces of code and they use
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	85 different conventions. Typing tensor.* is a bit longer, but a lot more
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	86 portable.
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	87 JB: I thought that these are nice:
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	88 - "from foo import Bar"
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	89 - "from foo import Bar, Blah"
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	90 What's wrong with them? They keep the code listing short and readable.
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	91 I would discourage these forms when symbols 'Bar' and 'Blah' are
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	92 ambiguous, in which case the parent module prefix serves to disambiguate
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	93 them in the code.
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	94 I agree that the "import A as B" form should be discouraged in general,
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	95 because that's just confusing and makes code less grep-friendly.
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	96 OD: I agree that "from foo import Bar, Blah" is sometimes convenient
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	97 (typically when you re-use Bar / Blah many times in the same file),
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	98 and would vote in favor of accepting it when it is appropriate.
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	99 This guideline was taken from Google's coding recommendation:
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	100 "from foo import * or from foo import Bar is very nasty and can
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	101 lead to serious maintenance issues because it makes it hard to find
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	102 module dependencies."
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	103 OD: Decision was taken in committee's meeting to allow
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	104 from foo import Bar, Blah
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	105 when imported stuff is re-used multiple times in the same file, and
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	106 there is no ambiguity.
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	107
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	108 * Imports should usually be on separate lines.
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	109 OD: I would add an exception, saying it is ok to group multiple imports
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	110 from the standard library on a single line, e.g.
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	111 import os, sys, time
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	112 I just don't see much benefit in putting them on separate lines (for
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	113 third-party imports I agree it is best to keep them separate, as it
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	114 makes dependencies clearer, and diffs look better when someone adds /
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	115 removes an import). Does anyone see a good reason to keep standard
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	116 library imports on different lines?
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	117 JB: what does 'usually' mean here? The guideline seems vacuous.
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	118 OD: Sorry my fault, I did not quote the whole guideline from PEP8. The
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	119 'usually' was because of what followed:
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	120 it's okay to say this though:
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	121 from subprocess import Popen, PIPE
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	122 (which btw contradicts Google's recommendation mentioned previously)
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	123 OD: Decision was taken in committee's meeting to allow multiple imports
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	124 on the same line for standard library modules (only).
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	125
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	126 * The BDFL recommends inserting a blank line between the
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	127 last paragraph in a multi-line docstring and its closing quotes, placing
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	128 the closing quotes on a line by themselves. This way, Emacs'
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	129 fill-paragraph command can be used on it.
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	130 OD: I think it is ugly and I have not seen it used much. Any Emacs
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	131 user believes it is a must?
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	132 OD: Decision was taken in committee's meeting to drop this
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	133 recommendation.
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	134
1113 60ef81fe1825 2cents in coding_style James Bergstra <bergstrj@iro.umontreal.ca> parents: 1103 diff changeset	135 * JB: How should we combine capitalization and underscores to name classes
60ef81fe1825 2cents in coding_style James Bergstra <bergstrj@iro.umontreal.ca> parents: 1103 diff changeset	136 and functions related to an algorithm like 'SGD' or a model like 'RBM'
60ef81fe1825 2cents in coding_style James Bergstra <bergstrj@iro.umontreal.ca> parents: 1103 diff changeset	137 whose common name is capitalized? Case in point: How should I name a
60ef81fe1825 2cents in coding_style James Bergstra <bergstrj@iro.umontreal.ca> parents: 1103 diff changeset	138 Hybrid Monte Carlo Sampler? Should I use the common HMC abbreviation?
1128 03b41a79bd60 coding_style: Replies to James' questions / comments Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1123 diff changeset	139 OD: This one is answered by PEP8 (search HTTPServerError in it).
03b41a79bd60 coding_style: Replies to James' questions / comments Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1123 diff changeset	140 You should use:
03b41a79bd60 coding_style: Replies to James' questions / comments Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1123 diff changeset	141 RBMClassName
03b41a79bd60 coding_style: Replies to James' questions / comments Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1123 diff changeset	142 rbm_function_name
03b41a79bd60 coding_style: Replies to James' questions / comments Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1123 diff changeset	143 As far as using abbreviations is concerned:
03b41a79bd60 coding_style: Replies to James' questions / comments Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1123 diff changeset	144 All identifiers in the Python standard library (...) SHOULD use
03b41a79bd60 coding_style: Replies to James' questions / comments Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1123 diff changeset	145 English words wherever feasible (in many cases, abbreviations and
03b41a79bd60 coding_style: Replies to James' questions / comments Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1123 diff changeset	146 technical terms are used which aren't English).
03b41a79bd60 coding_style: Replies to James' questions / comments Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1123 diff changeset	147 so I guess HMC is ok when using Hybrid Monte Carlo is considered to
03b41a79bd60 coding_style: Replies to James' questions / comments Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1123 diff changeset	148 make some names too long.
1113 60ef81fe1825 2cents in coding_style James Bergstra <bergstrj@iro.umontreal.ca> parents: 1103 diff changeset	149
1140 7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	150
1103 56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	151 Note about warnings
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	152 -------------------
1072 04bbf05d249c small comment. Frederic Bastien <nouiz@nouiz.org> parents: 1070 diff changeset	153
04bbf05d249c small comment. Frederic Bastien <nouiz@nouiz.org> parents: 1070 diff changeset	154 Fred: This is a refactored thing from James email of what we should put in message
04bbf05d249c small comment. Frederic Bastien <nouiz@nouiz.org> parents: 1070 diff changeset	155 that we send to the user:
04bbf05d249c small comment. Frederic Bastien <nouiz@nouiz.org> parents: 1070 diff changeset	156 1) Hint where in the code this log come from.
04bbf05d249c small comment. Frederic Bastien <nouiz@nouiz.org> parents: 1070 diff changeset	157 2) Hint how to hide this message? or we should this into documentation.
04bbf05d249c small comment. Frederic Bastien <nouiz@nouiz.org> parents: 1070 diff changeset	158 3) Tell explicitly if the user can ignore it and the consequence.
04bbf05d249c small comment. Frederic Bastien <nouiz@nouiz.org> parents: 1070 diff changeset	159
1025 1c96e7ad95c3 coding_style: Added discussion point about backward compatibility with Python 2.x versions Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1022 diff changeset	160 Existing Python coding style specifications and guidelines
1c96e7ad95c3 coding_style: Added discussion point about backward compatibility with Python 2.x versions Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1022 diff changeset	161 ----------------------------------------------------------
1017 af80b7d182af coding_style: Added list of participants in the committee Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1009 diff changeset	162
1103 56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	163 * Must-read
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	164 * Official Python coding style guide: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	165 * Official docstring conventions: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0257
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	166 * Google Python Style Guide: http://google-styleguide.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/pyguide.html
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	167 * Interesting
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	168 * Code Like a Pythonista: http://python.net/~goodger/projects/pycon/2007/idiomatic/handout.html
1134 0653a85ff2e8 coding_style: Moved url about Numpy conversion to Python 3 to the url list Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1133 diff changeset	169 * Numpy notes on conversion to Python 3: http://projects.scipy.org/numpy/browser/trunk/doc/Py3K.txt
1103 56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	170 * Can skip
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	171 * Python style for university class: http://www.cs.caltech.edu/courses/cs11/material/python/misc/python_style_guide.html
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	172 * Mailman coding style: http://barry.warsaw.us/software/STYLEGUIDE.txt
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	173 * Some company coding style: http://self.maluke.com/style
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	174 * Chandler coding style: http://chandlerproject.org/Projects/ChandlerCodingStyleGuidelines
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	175 * Outdated recommendations: http://lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/dev/2003-March/000479.html
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	176 * Mostly some beginners tips: http://learnpython.pbworks.com/PythonTricks
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	177 * More beginners tips: http://eikke.com/how-not-to-write-python-code/
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	178 * Cogent coding guidelines: http://jaynes.colorado.edu/PythonGuidelines.html
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	179 * Djangoo coding guidelines: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/internals/contributing/#coding-style
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	180 * Numpy documentation style guidelines: http://projects.scipy.org/numpy/wiki/CodingStyleGuidelines
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	181 * Some random guy guidelines (nothing special): http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/articles/python_style_guide.shtml
1009 dc5185cca21e Added files for Coding Style and Optimization committees Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: diff changeset	182
1020 53f6eb80abf1 coding_style: More links and sections to discuss Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1017 diff changeset	183 We will probably want to take PEP-8 as starting point, and read what other
53f6eb80abf1 coding_style: More links and sections to discuss Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1017 diff changeset	184 people think about it / how other coding guidelines differ from it.
53f6eb80abf1 coding_style: More links and sections to discuss Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1017 diff changeset	185
1060 b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	186 OD: Things about PEP 8 I don't like (but it may be just me):
b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	187
b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	188 * If necessary, you can add an extra pair of parentheses around an
b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	189 expression, but sometimes using a backslash looks better.
b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	190 --> I rarely find that backslash looks better. In most situations you can
b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	191 get rid of them. Typically I prefer:
b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	192 if (cond_1 and
b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	193 cond_2 and
b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	194 cond_3):
b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	195 to
b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	196 if cond_1 and \
b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	197 cond_2 and \
b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	198 cond_3:
b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	199
b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	200 * You should use two spaces after a sentence-ending period.
b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	201 --> Looks weird to me.
1063 074901ccf7b6 Some additional notes on some of the tasks and points from the meeting. wardefar@grincheux.iro.umontreal.ca parents: 1062 diff changeset	202 (DWF: This is an old convention from the typewriter era. It has more
074901ccf7b6 Some additional notes on some of the tasks and points from the meeting. wardefar@grincheux.iro.umontreal.ca parents: 1062 diff changeset	203 or less been wiped out by HTML's convention of ignoring extra
074901ccf7b6 Some additional notes on some of the tasks and points from the meeting. wardefar@grincheux.iro.umontreal.ca parents: 1062 diff changeset	204 whitespace: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentence_spacing for
074901ccf7b6 Some additional notes on some of the tasks and points from the meeting. wardefar@grincheux.iro.umontreal.ca parents: 1062 diff changeset	205 more detail. I think it's okay to drop this convention in source code.)
1103 56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	206 OD: Cool, thanks, I guess we can drop it then.
1060 b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	207
b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	208 * Missing in PEP 8:
b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	209 - How to indent multi-line statements? E.g. do we want
b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	210 x = my_func(a, b, c,
b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	211 d, e, f)
b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	212 or
b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	213 x = my_func(a, b, c,
b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	214 d, e, f)
b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	215 or
b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	216 x = my_func(
b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	217 a, b, c, d, e, f)
b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	218 --> Probably depends on the specific situation, but we could have a
b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	219 few typical examples (and the same happens with multi-lines lists)
1072 04bbf05d249c small comment. Frederic Bastien <nouiz@nouiz.org> parents: 1070 diff changeset	220 (Fred: I would do 2 or 3, but not 1. I find it more redable when the
04bbf05d249c small comment. Frederic Bastien <nouiz@nouiz.org> parents: 1070 diff changeset	221 indent is broken after a paranthesis then at any point.
1075 d422f726c156 coding_style: Discussion and one more point to think about Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1074 diff changeset	222 OD: After thinking about it, I agreee as well. My recommendation would
d422f726c156 coding_style: Discussion and one more point to think about Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1074 diff changeset	223 be to go with 2 when it can fit on two lines, and 3 otherwise. Same
d422f726c156 coding_style: Discussion and one more point to think about Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1074 diff changeset	224 with lists.
1060 b4ccf6b43f27 coding_style: Added some comments about PEP8 Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1050 diff changeset	225
1025 1c96e7ad95c3 coding_style: Added discussion point about backward compatibility with Python 2.x versions Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1022 diff changeset	226 Documentation
1c96e7ad95c3 coding_style: Added discussion point about backward compatibility with Python 2.x versions Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1022 diff changeset	227 -------------
1020 53f6eb80abf1 coding_style: More links and sections to discuss Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1017 diff changeset	228
53f6eb80abf1 coding_style: More links and sections to discuss Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1017 diff changeset	229 How do we write doc?
53f6eb80abf1 coding_style: More links and sections to discuss Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1017 diff changeset	230
1025 1c96e7ad95c3 coding_style: Added discussion point about backward compatibility with Python 2.x versions Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1022 diff changeset	231 Compatibility with various Python versions
1c96e7ad95c3 coding_style: Added discussion point about backward compatibility with Python 2.x versions Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1022 diff changeset	232 ------------------------------------------
1020 53f6eb80abf1 coding_style: More links and sections to discuss Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1017 diff changeset	233
1025 1c96e7ad95c3 coding_style: Added discussion point about backward compatibility with Python 2.x versions Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1022 diff changeset	234 * Which Python 2.x version do we want to support?
1c96e7ad95c3 coding_style: Added discussion point about backward compatibility with Python 2.x versions Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1022 diff changeset	235
1c96e7ad95c3 coding_style: Added discussion point about backward compatibility with Python 2.x versions Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1022 diff changeset	236 * Is it reasonable to have coding guidelines that would make the code as
1020 53f6eb80abf1 coding_style: More links and sections to discuss Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1017 diff changeset	237 compatible as possible with Python 3?
53f6eb80abf1 coding_style: More links and sections to discuss Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1017 diff changeset	238
1025 1c96e7ad95c3 coding_style: Added discussion point about backward compatibility with Python 2.x versions Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1022 diff changeset	239 C coding style
1c96e7ad95c3 coding_style: Added discussion point about backward compatibility with Python 2.x versions Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1022 diff changeset	240 --------------
1022 e21b3fdec4ef add comments. Frederic Bastien <nouiz@nouiz.org> parents: 1020 diff changeset	241
e21b3fdec4ef add comments. Frederic Bastien <nouiz@nouiz.org> parents: 1020 diff changeset	242 We also need a c-style coding style.
1033 f1e0a180574a coding_style: Added meeting date & time Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1028 diff changeset	243
1062 64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	244 Meeting 2010/09/09
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	245 ------------------
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	246
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	247 * Coding guidelines
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	248 PEP 8 & Google should be a good basis to start with.
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	249 Task: Highlight the most important points in them (OD).
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	250
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	251 * Documentation
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	252 Use RST with Sphinx.
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	253 Task: Provide specific examples on how to document a class, method, and some
1072 04bbf05d249c small comment. Frederic Bastien <nouiz@nouiz.org> parents: 1070 diff changeset	254 specific classes like Op (DE). Modify the theano documentation to include that.
1103 56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	255 OD: May want to check out
56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	256 http://projects.scipy.org/numpy/wiki/CodingStyleGuidelines
1062 64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	257
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	258 * Python versions to be supported
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	259 Support 2.4 (because some of the clusters are still running 2.4) and write
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	260 code that can be converted to 3.x with 2to3 in a straightforward way.
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	261 Task: Write to-do's and to-not-do's to avoid compatibility issues. (OD)
1033 f1e0a180574a coding_style: Added meeting date & time Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1028 diff changeset	262
1062 64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	263 * C coding style
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	264 How to write C code (in particular for Numpy / Cuda), and how to mix C and
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	265 Python.
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	266 Task: See if there would be a sensible C code style to follow (maybe look how
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	267 Numpy does it), and how projects that mix C and Python deal with it (e.g. use
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	268 separate files, or be able to have mixed syntax highlighting?) (FB)
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	269
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	270 * Program output
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	271 Use the warning and logging modules. Avoid print as much as possible.
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	272 Task: Look into these modules to define general guidelines e.g. to decide when
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	273 to use warning instead of logging. (DWF)
1033 f1e0a180574a coding_style: Added meeting date & time Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1028 diff changeset	274
1062 64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	275 * Automatized code verification
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	276 Use pychecker & friends to make sure everything is fine.
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	277 Task: Look into the various options available (DE)
1155 b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	278 Result: See sections 'Tools to help us out' and 'Automating and enforcing coding
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	279 style'
1062 64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	280
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	281 * Tests
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	282 Force people to write tests. Automatic email reminder of code lines not
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	283 covered by tests (see if we can get this from nosetests). Decorator to mark
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	284 some classes / methods as not being tested yet, so as to be able to
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	285 automatically warn the user when he is using untested stuff (and to remind
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	286 ourselves we should add a test).
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	287 Task: See feasibility. (OD)
1132 f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	288 Result: See section 'Enforcing strict testing policy'.
1062 64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	289
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	290 * VIM / Emacs plugins / config files
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	291 To enforce good coding style automatically.
64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	292 Task: Look for existing options. (FB)
1063 074901ccf7b6 Some additional notes on some of the tasks and points from the meeting. wardefar@grincheux.iro.umontreal.ca parents: 1062 diff changeset	293 (DWF: I have put some time into this for vim, I will send around my files)
1062 64720cdca3d3 coding_style: Notes from today's meeting and tasks for next week Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1060 diff changeset	294
1066 e1aca94f28d8 coding_style: Added suggestion from PV, and a few coding guidelines Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1062 diff changeset	295 Suggestion by PV
e1aca94f28d8 coding_style: Added suggestion from PV, and a few coding guidelines Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1062 diff changeset	296 ----------------
e1aca94f28d8 coding_style: Added suggestion from PV, and a few coding guidelines Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1062 diff changeset	297
e1aca94f28d8 coding_style: Added suggestion from PV, and a few coding guidelines Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1062 diff changeset	298 Have a sample code that showcases everything one should comply to.
e1aca94f28d8 coding_style: Added suggestion from PV, and a few coding guidelines Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1062 diff changeset	299
1159 531e77fb67f2 coding_style: Moved more elements to official 'API' Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1155 diff changeset	300 Fred's suggestion to solve issue with hashlib not available in Python 2.4:
531e77fb67f2 coding_style: Moved more elements to official 'API' Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1155 diff changeset	301 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
1073 3e7978201ffc coding_style: Some more python coding guidelines Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1070 diff changeset	302
1159 531e77fb67f2 coding_style: Moved more elements to official 'API' Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1155 diff changeset	303 You can do as in theano.gof.cc:
1103 56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	304
1159 531e77fb67f2 coding_style: Moved more elements to official 'API' Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1155 diff changeset	305 ..code::
1133 9baa47482ccc coding_style: Added a few more coding guidelines for compatibility with various Python versions Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1132 diff changeset	306
1136 5f0c8ff2b3b6 tell how do to some stuff to be compatible with python2.4 Frederic Bastien <nouiz@nouiz.org> parents: 1134 diff changeset	307 if sys.version_info[:2] >= (2,5):
5f0c8ff2b3b6 tell how do to some stuff to be compatible with python2.4 Frederic Bastien <nouiz@nouiz.org> parents: 1134 diff changeset	308 import hashlib
5f0c8ff2b3b6 tell how do to some stuff to be compatible with python2.4 Frederic Bastien <nouiz@nouiz.org> parents: 1134 diff changeset	309 def hash_from_code(msg):
5f0c8ff2b3b6 tell how do to some stuff to be compatible with python2.4 Frederic Bastien <nouiz@nouiz.org> parents: 1134 diff changeset	310 return hashlib.md5(msg).hexdigest()
5f0c8ff2b3b6 tell how do to some stuff to be compatible with python2.4 Frederic Bastien <nouiz@nouiz.org> parents: 1134 diff changeset	311 else:
5f0c8ff2b3b6 tell how do to some stuff to be compatible with python2.4 Frederic Bastien <nouiz@nouiz.org> parents: 1134 diff changeset	312 import md5
5f0c8ff2b3b6 tell how do to some stuff to be compatible with python2.4 Frederic Bastien <nouiz@nouiz.org> parents: 1134 diff changeset	313 def hash_from_code(msg):
5f0c8ff2b3b6 tell how do to some stuff to be compatible with python2.4 Frederic Bastien <nouiz@nouiz.org> parents: 1134 diff changeset	314 return md5.new(msg).hexdigest()
1133 9baa47482ccc coding_style: Added a few more coding guidelines for compatibility with various Python versions Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1132 diff changeset	315
1141 6c79394b6b20 coding_style: Decisions made during today's meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1140 diff changeset	316
1075 d422f726c156 coding_style: Discussion and one more point to think about Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1074 diff changeset	317 Mercurial commits
d422f726c156 coding_style: Discussion and one more point to think about Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1074 diff changeset	318 -----------------
d422f726c156 coding_style: Discussion and one more point to think about Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1074 diff changeset	319
d422f726c156 coding_style: Discussion and one more point to think about Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1074 diff changeset	320 * How to write good commit messages?
1103 56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	321 OD: Check Django's guidelines (link above)
1075 d422f726c156 coding_style: Discussion and one more point to think about Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1074 diff changeset	322 * Standardize the merge commit text (what is the message from fetch?)
d422f726c156 coding_style: Discussion and one more point to think about Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1074 diff changeset	323
1141 6c79394b6b20 coding_style: Decisions made during today's meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1140 diff changeset	324 During committee's meeting, Fred mentioned a bug with Assembla links for
6c79394b6b20 coding_style: Decisions made during today's meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1140 diff changeset	325 multi-line commits.
6c79394b6b20 coding_style: Decisions made during today's meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1140 diff changeset	326
1155 b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	327 Tools to help us out
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	328 ---------------------
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	329
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	330 Dumi:
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	331
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	332 * pylint: highly configurable and very popular tool, similar in spirit to lint
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	333 for C. Can specify a config file, customize/disable warnings and errors, hook
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	334 it to vim/emacs and include coding style convensions in the check too. A nice
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	335 feature is that you can include a comment like "# pylint: disable-msg=C0103"
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	336 into a file and disable a message locally. This is nice and dangerous at the
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	337 same time. Another cool feature is incremental checking with caching of
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	338 results, which also allows tracking of progress.
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	339
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	340 * pyflakes: pylint alternative that is supposedly faster, but is I think more
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	341 limited in the number of things it is good at: "PyFlakes will tell you when
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	342 you have forgotten an import, mistyped a variable name, defined two functions
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	343 with the same name, shadowed a variable from another scope, imported a module
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	344 twice, or two different modules with the same name, and so on.". Most reviews
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	345 found online praise the speed, but note that pylint is clearly superior in
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	346 every other respect.
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	347
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	348 * pychecker: it actually imports each module (not sure if pylint does this).
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	349 It seems that pylint = pychecker + coding style and that pylint is more
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	350 popular.
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	351
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	352 * pep8: if all you care is about obeying PEP-8:
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	353 http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pep8 (includes the actual PEP-8 snippets with the
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	354 errors found, which is neat). Otherwise, pylint seems like a superset of this.
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	355
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	356 * http://www.doughellmann.com/articles/pythonmagazine/completely-different/2008-03-linters/index.html
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	357 - article from 2008 comparing pylint, pychecker, and pyflakes. The conclusion
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	358 is to use pylint, more or less.
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	359
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	360 I say we stick with pylint for now as it provides a great degree of flexibility
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	361 in a single mature package.
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	362
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	363 * vim + pylint: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=891
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	364 * emcas + pylint: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/PythonProgrammingInEmacs#toc5
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	365
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	366 Automating and enforcing coding style
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	367 -------------------------------------
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	368
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	369 Ideally, we would like to have a uniform approach to this, where everyone tests
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	370 against the same tool(s) and uses the same list of disabled warnings etc.
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	371
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	372 Dumi: there are several ways of approaching this, independently of the tools used:
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	373
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	374 * Create a precommit hook for mercurial, which runs the tool(s) of choice and
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	375 generates warnings or aborts the commit process. This hook is a simple Python
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	376 module (well, as simple as we want it to be), which we can include into
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	377 everyone's hgrc, in the precommit.pylint variable, for instance. An example
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	378 is http://github.com/jrburke/dvcs_jslint/blob/master/dvcs_jslint.js. The
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	379 advantage of this approach is that the load is distributed and
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	380 errors/warnings are caught client-side, before the commit.
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	381
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	382 * Another client-side option is to have editor plugins for the various style
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	383 checkers: vim and emacs can access pylint pretty easily for instance.
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	384
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	385 * Instead of doing this client-side, one can do things server-side. On
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	386 Assembla, this means using their Webhooks
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	387 (http://www.assembla.com/spaces/demostuff/webhook_tool), since HTTP-based
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	388 hooks that we would need to tie with our buildbot server (whichever server we
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	389 choose that to be).
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	390
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	391 * I (DE) prefer starting with the client-side approach, as it is easier to
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	392 implement, has no single point of failure and is deployable fast. We could
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	393 have a "batch" script that runs our lint tools in conjunction with hg
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	394 annotate and sends hate-mail once a week to offenders who have somehow
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	395 slipped things through the cracks. Also on the server-side we could run
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	396 time-consuming checking (though how such checks would differ from tests is
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	397 unclear).
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	398
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	399 Note that:
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	400
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	401 * I haven't found anything ready-made online, so we need to write these
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	402 hooks ourselves.
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	403 * I think we should make it so that it is not possible to commit things if
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	404 pylint reports an actual error.
b70a1fcb7b4f coding_style: tools to make life easier and automating certain processes Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com> parents: 1152 diff changeset	405
1123 1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	406 Type checking
1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	407 -------------
1103 56c5f0990869 coding_style: More work on some guidelines, also put some points to debate in a specific section Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1075 diff changeset	408
1123 1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	409 (Suggested by Francois Savard)
1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	410
1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	411 vu que vous êtes en train de vous occuper de l'aspect coding style, je
1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	412 mentionne ceci, à faire ce que vous en voulez: j'aime bien éviter des
1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	413 erreurs sur l'ordre de mes paramètres, sur les assumptions sur les
1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	414 paramètres etc. en faisant des argument check. Ça remplace un peu le
1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	415 static type checking des langages genre Java.
1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	416
1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	417 En Python y'a une façon élégante de définir ses propres typecheckers,
1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	418 value checkers etc. et ensuite les passer en paramètre à un décorateur de
1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	419 fonction:
1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	420
1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	421 http://code.activestate.com/recipes/454322-type-checking-decorator/
1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	422
1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	423 (Juste un exemple, vu que les checks peuvent être plus élaborés, inclure
1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	424 des value checks (>0 etc.), être flexibles pour ne pas demander que ce
1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	425 soit un type fixe mais plutôt que ça réponde à certaines contraintes (que
1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	426 ça "ressemble" à un float, p. ex.). J'avais développé une lib pour faire
1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	427 qqch du genre en Javascript).
1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	428
1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	429 Je ne sais pas si vous comptiez parler de ça, et si ça vaut la peine, mais
1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	430 personnellement je préfère du code à des commentaires qui peuvent être out
1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	431 of sync avec le contenu d'une méthode. Si vous croyez que ça vaut la peine,
1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	432 vous pourriez p-e définir des type/value-checkers standards pour éviter que
1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	433 tout le monde redéfinissent les siens à sa façon.
1a1c0c3adcca coding_style: Added suggestion made by email by Francois about type checking Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1113 diff changeset	434
1141 6c79394b6b20 coding_style: Decisions made during today's meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1140 diff changeset	435 OD: This was discussed in committee's meeting. We agreed to provide ways to do
6c79394b6b20 coding_style: Decisions made during today's meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1140 diff changeset	436 this, but not to enforce its usage.
6c79394b6b20 coding_style: Decisions made during today's meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1140 diff changeset	437
1132 f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	438 Enforcing strict testing policy
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	439 -------------------------------
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	440
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	441 The `coverage` third-party module provides a way to gather code coverage
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	442 statistics in the test suite. `nosetests` has a plugin that can be activated
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	443 with the --with-coverage option to use this module.
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	444 It is possible to know which lines specifically lack coverage. However, we
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	445 will probably want to post-process this data to do more than a simple report
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	446 (which noone will care about). This could be done either by parsing nosetests'
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	447 coverage output, or modifying its coverage plugin, or writing our own version
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	448 of it. The main goal would be to identify who is responsible for writing lines
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	449 that are not currently covered (using 'hg annotate'), in order to send email
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	450 notifications.
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	451
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	452 We should aim at 100% code coverage in tests. This is realistic because
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	453 `coverage` offers ways to ignore coverage for lines we explicitely do not want
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	454 to cover (typically debug code, or AssertionError / NotImplementedError that
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	455 are not supposed to be triggered during normal usage).
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	456 We may need to do some advanced processing though to e.g. collect results from
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	457 multiple build bots, if for instance some bot is running tests without GPU
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	458 support, and another one is taking care of the GPU tests.
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	459
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	460 Code that should be tested but for which no test is currently written would
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	461 also require some decorator / helper function that would trigger a warning at
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	462 run-time (only once / execution). This could be enforced by adopting a
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	463 different policy about lack-of-coverage notification emails, depending on
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	464 whether or not the warning is present:
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	465 - if there is no warning, daily email notification (ADD A WARNING!!!)
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	466 - if there is a warning, weekly email notification (ADD A TEST!!!)
f0a1b88367b0 coding_style: Looked into feasibility of forcing developers to test their code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1130 diff changeset	467
1140 7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	468 Meeting 2010/09/16
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	469 ------------------
7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	470
1141 6c79394b6b20 coding_style: Decisions made during today's meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1140 diff changeset	471 Tasks to be performed by tomorrow:
6c79394b6b20 coding_style: Decisions made during today's meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1140 diff changeset	472 * OD:
6c79394b6b20 coding_style: Decisions made during today's meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1140 diff changeset	473 * Write down summary of Python coding style recommendations
6c79394b6b20 coding_style: Decisions made during today's meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1140 diff changeset	474 * Start a file that showcases those guidelines
6c79394b6b20 coding_style: Decisions made during today's meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1140 diff changeset	475 * DWF:
6c79394b6b20 coding_style: Decisions made during today's meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1140 diff changeset	476 * Look into recommendations on how to document a class, method, ...
6c79394b6b20 coding_style: Decisions made during today's meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1140 diff changeset	477 * Write recommendations on when to use logging vs. warning
6c79394b6b20 coding_style: Decisions made during today's meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1140 diff changeset	478 * Make public some configuration files / plugins for vim
6c79394b6b20 coding_style: Decisions made during today's meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1140 diff changeset	479 * Come up with official common file header (license in particular)
1140 7d2e65249bf9 coding_style: Closed some open questions for which a decision was reached during meeting Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1138 diff changeset	480
1170 53340a8df1fa coding_style: Started to write full code sample Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1162 diff changeset	481 Script usage documentation
53340a8df1fa coding_style: Started to write full code sample Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1162 diff changeset	482 --------------------------
53340a8df1fa coding_style: Started to write full code sample Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1162 diff changeset	483
53340a8df1fa coding_style: Started to write full code sample Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1162 diff changeset	484 OD: It would be nice to have some standardized way of parsing a script's
53340a8df1fa coding_style: Started to write full code sample Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1162 diff changeset	485 arguments and displaying the script usage doc to the user.
53340a8df1fa coding_style: Started to write full code sample Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1162 diff changeset	486
1178 10bc5ebb5823 coding_style: Added note about the need to provide guidelines for serialization-friendly code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1170 diff changeset	487 Recommendations for serialization
10bc5ebb5823 coding_style: Added note about the need to provide guidelines for serialization-friendly code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1170 diff changeset	488 ---------------------------------
10bc5ebb5823 coding_style: Added note about the need to provide guidelines for serialization-friendly code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1170 diff changeset	489
10bc5ebb5823 coding_style: Added note about the need to provide guidelines for serialization-friendly code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1170 diff changeset	490 We need to add coding style guidelines to make sure code is properly
10bc5ebb5823 coding_style: Added note about the need to provide guidelines for serialization-friendly code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1170 diff changeset	491 serializable.
10bc5ebb5823 coding_style: Added note about the need to provide guidelines for serialization-friendly code Olivier Delalleau <delallea@iro> parents: 1170 diff changeset	492

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