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6 * Datasets as views/tasks (Pascal Vincent's idea): our dataset specification |
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7 needs to be flexible enough to accommodate different (sub)tasks and views of |
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8 the same underlying data. |
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9 * Datasets as probability distributions from which one can sample. |
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10 * That's not something I would consider to be a dataset-related problem to |
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11 tackle now: a probability distribution in Pylearn would probably be a |
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12 different kind of beast, and it should be easy enough to have a |
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13 DatasetToDistribution class for instance, that would take care of viewing a |
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15 * Our specification should allow transparent handling of infinite datasets (or |
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16 simply datasets which cannot fit in memory) |
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17 * GPU/buffering issues. |
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19 Commiteee: DE, OB, OD, AB, PV |
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22 Some ideas from existing ML libraries: |
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24 - PyML: notion of dataset containers: VectorDataSet, SparseDataSet, KernelData, |
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25 PairDataSet, Aggregate. Ultimately, the learner decides |
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26 - mlpy: very primitive notions of data (simple 2D matrices) |
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27 - PyBrain: Datasets are geared towards specific tasks: ClassificationDataSet, |
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28 SequentialDataSet, ReinforcementDataSet, ... Each class is quite |
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29 constrained and may have a different interface. |
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30 - MDP: Seems to have restrictions on the type of data being passed around, as |
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31 well as its dimensionality ("Input array data is typically assumed to be |
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32 two-dimensional and ordered such that observations of the same variable are |
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33 stored on rows and different variables are stored on columns.") |
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34 - Orange: Data matrices, with names and types associated to each column. |
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35 Basically there seems to be only one base dataset class that contains the |
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36 data. Data points are lists (of values corresponding to each column). |
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37 - APGL: Hard to say how they deal with data from the documentation alone. |
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38 - Monte: Data is simply numpy arrays. |
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39 - scikits.learn: Dataset is a simple container with e.g. dataset.data being |
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40 a 2D numpy array of input features, and dataset.target the target vector. |
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41 - Shogun: Vade Retro C++! (may be worth looking into their feature concept |
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42 though). |
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45 A few things that our dataset containers should support at a minimum: |
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47 - streams, possibly infinite |
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48 - task/views of the data for different problems |
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49 - indexing & slicing |
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50 - pairs or triples or etc of examples |
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51 - a 'distance/gram matrix' container (imagine that the data is given to you |
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52 as a distance matrix) |
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53 - multi-dimensional time-series (again, maybe with pairs/triples, maybe |
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54 given to you as a distance matrix over time) |
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56 Another question to consider is the following: how tight should it integrate |
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57 with Theano? Do we want to be able to store data as shared variables or just |
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58 have an option for that? Theano + GPU constrains things that we can do (in terms |
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59 of sizes, buffering, etc): these are things we need to think about, but it's not |
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60 clear whether we should aim for building them into the interface. |
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62 Task views of the data for different problems: How can we achieve this? Should |
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63 we simply have a set of standard dataset descriptors ('classification', |
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64 'regression', 'multi-label', 'density_estimation') and have a set_view method |
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65 that changes the current dataset view type? |
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67 There is then the question of how to approach the design of a Dataset class from |
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68 an OOP perspective. So far, my (Dumi's) idea is to have an almost 'abstract class' |
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69 Dataset that doesn't implement any methods except a few setters/getters. The reason |
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70 to have the methods listed that way is to have a common 'specification', but classes |
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71 that inherit from Dataset need not implement every single method (only the ones |
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72 that are relevant) and can obviously implement other methods as appropriate. The |
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73 reason to have a common specification (as abstract as it might be) is to, well, |
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74 have a common specification that would make our code clearer and cleaner. |
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76 An example of what I (Dumi) am thinking in terms of concrete API: |
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78 class Dataset: |
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79 def __init__(self): |
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80 self.type = None |
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81 self.in_memory = None |
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82 self.inputs = None # list of filepaths, or objects in memory, or... |
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83 self.outputs = None |
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85 def get_example(self,example_index): |
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88 def get_next_example(self): |
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89 raise NotImplementedError() |
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91 def get_batch(self,batch_index): |
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92 raise NotImplementedError() |
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94 def get_next_batch(self): |
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97 def get_slice(self,slice_object): |
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101 self.view_type = view_type |
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102 self.n_classes = None |
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104 def set_n_classes(self,n_classes): |
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105 self.n_classes = n_classes |
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107 def set_batch_size(self,batch_size): |
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108 self.batch_size = batch_size |
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110 You will note that there is no notion of train/valid/test in this class: I think we should |
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111 just have a train dataset, a valid one and a test one instead or (if it's in one |
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112 big file or infinite stream) just handle the split ourselves (via slicing, for |
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113 instance). I (Dumi) am of the opinion that it keeps things cleaner, but the |
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114 specification does not preclude more fine-grained 'splitting' of the data. |
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116 A concrete implementation would look like this (we would have one class per |
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117 dataset that we use, and the class declaration contains essentially everything |
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118 there is to know about the dataset): |
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120 class MNIST(Dataset): |
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121 def __init__(self,inputs=['train_x.npy'],outputs=['train_y.npy']): |
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122 self.type='standard_xy' |
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123 self.in_memory = True |
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124 self.inputs = inputs # load them or create |
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125 self.outputs = outputs |
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126 self.set_view('classification') |
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127 self.set_n_classes(10) |
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128 self.set_batch_size(20) |
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129 self.n_batches = self._compute_n_batches() |
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131 def get_batch(self,batch_index): |
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132 x,y = self._fetch_batch(batch_index) |
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133 if self.view_type == 'classification': |
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134 return x,numpy.int32(y) |
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135 elif self.view_type == 'density_estimation': |
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136 return x |
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137 else: |
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138 raise NotImplementedError() |
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140 def shared_data(self): |
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141 shared_x = theano.shared(numpy.asarray(self.inputs, dtype=theano.config.floatX)) |
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142 shared_y = theano.shared(numpy.asarray(self.outputs, dtype=theano.config.floatX)) |
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143 return shared_x, T.cast(shared_y, 'int32') |
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145 def _compute_n_batches(self): |
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146 pass |
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148 def _fetch_batch(self,batch_index): |
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149 pass |
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151 But nothing stops you from defining get_train_batch, get_valid_batch and stuff |
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152 like that! |
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154 So we'd use it as: |
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156 train_mnist = MNIST(inputs = ['train_x.npy'], outputs = ['train_y.npy']) |
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157 valid_mnist = MNIST(inputs = ['valid_x.npy'], outputs = ['valid_y.npy']) |
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159 x,y = train_mnist.get_batch(0) |
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160 train_mnist.set_view('density_estimation') |
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161 x = train_mnist.get_batch(0) |
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163 or |
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165 mnist_data = MNIST(inputs = ['x.npy'], outputs = ['y.npy']) |
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166 batches_train = range(int(mnist_data.n_batches*0.8)) |
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167 batches_valid = range(int(mnist_data.n_batches*0.8),mnist_data.n_batches) |
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169 xt,yt = mnist_data.get_batch(batches_train[0]) |
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170 xv,yv = mnist_data.get_batch(batches_valid[0]) |
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175 COMMENTS |
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176 ~~~~~~~~ |
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178 JB asks: How about asking datasets to also provide a visualization mechanism |
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180 external objects that are similar to dataset examples (e.g. filters from a |
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181 weight matrix that filters images). This doesn't have to be complicated, and it |
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182 can be shared between datasets that exist in one modality (e.g. image datasets |
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189 visualization code separate from the dataset itself. It would make it easier |
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203 JB asks: What is a view? Does set_view change the Dataset or return a new |
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204 Dataset with a certain view of the original (in which case call it get_view)? |
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205 Does the view imply the types of the return-value of functions like |
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206 get_batch? What is the difference between the view and the subclasses of |
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207 Dataset in PyML? |
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209 JB asks: Do container formats (I'm thinking of HDF5) offer features for fast |
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210 retrieval that we would like to expose via this interface? |
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212 JB asks: How would you recommend using this sort of dataset in a boosting |
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213 algorithm where points need to be re-weighted. |
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216 JB asks: Do we want to provide for the possibility of feedback that modifies the |
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332 RP asks: What is the status of having the dataset support copying data |
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334 include this feature or not ? I think that the strongest selling point of |
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335 Theano is that it runs on GPU transperently, and I see this as a good |
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336 selling point for the library as well. Plus we intend to move more and |
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338 this feature we will need to find hacks around it .. |
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340 OD: I have like zero experience with GPU so hopefully someone else can answer |
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343 OD (continued): After thinking a bit more about it, I am not sure that would |
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344 work. I definitely need to look at some code doing it to get a better |
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346 written in a specific way to achieve this, in which case it may be up to the |
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349 RP comment: Yes, the dataset object alone can not handle this, the issue is somewhere |
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351 the data you need to recompile your theano function. So the learner can not |
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353 should also be aware when the dataset is changed, to recompile its internal |
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357 all the theano functions in the learner get recompiled based on shared |
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358 variables that the dataset object provides. It sort of fits very well in the |
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359 framework that I have in mind, which was spattered around in the learner.txt |
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368 learner should take care to divide the dataset into chunks that fit in the |
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369 GPU memory ( in case of a large dataset) and then take care of updating the |
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370 shared variables acording to the current chunk. Personally I feel like all |
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371 this data division, management and so on should be done by the dataset. |
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372 It feels more natural that way. For example assume you have a dataset that |
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373 is composed of a time series and some static data ( carre-tech heart beat |
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374 data is a good example). The static data is small enough so that you could |
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375 always store on the GPU, and you would only need to split the time series. |
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376 For the learner to do this ( since it gets the same interface from any |
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377 dataset object) would be like and if <this case> then, while for the |
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378 dataset is just a different class. But I'm happy to have all this GPU stuff |
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379 send to the learner as well if everybody else believe that is better. |
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382 Their is 2 cases, the data is in a shared variable. You can directly change the data |
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385 theano fct will be to transfer the dataset to the gpu before computation. If the data |
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386 change at each call, that will be as efficient as changing the data manually every time |
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390 theano op" thing that we talked about at the last meeting. |
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