changeset 574:d12b9a1432e8

cleaned-up version, fewer typos, shortened (but need 700 chars less)
author Dumitru Erhan <dumitru.erhan@gmail.com>
date Sat, 07 Aug 2010 18:39:36 -0700
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+Reviewer_1 claims that handwriting recognition is essentially solved, and we
+believe that this is not true. Indeed, the best methods have been
+getting essentially human performance in the case of clean digits. We are not
+aware of previous papers showing that human performance has been reached on the
+full character set. Furthermore, it is clear from our own experimentation that
+humans still greatly outperform machines when the characters are heavily
+distorted (e.g. the NISTP dataset). Playing with the provided demo will
+quickly convince you that this is true.
+
+"...not intended to compete with the state-of-the-art...": We actually included
+comparisons with the state-of-the-art on the NIST dataset (and beat it).
+
+"the demonstrations that self-taught learning can help deep learners is
+helpful": indeed, but it is even more interesting to consider the result that
+self-taught learning was found *more helpful for deep learners than for shallow
+ones*. Since the availability of out-of-distribution data is common (especially
+out-of-class data), this is of practical importance.
+
+Reviewer_4: "It would also be interesting to compare to SVMs...": ordinary SVMs cannot be
+used on such large datasets, and indeed it is a good idea to explore variants of
+SVMs or approximations of SVMs. We will continue exploring this thread (and the
+particular suggestion made) and hope to include these results in the final
+paper, to add more shallow learners to the comparison.
+
+"...it would be helpful to provide some theoretical analysis...": indeed, but
+this is either mathematically challenging (to say the least, since deep models
+involve a non-convex optimization) or would likely require very strong
+assumptions on the data distribution. However, there exists
+theoretical literature which answers some basic questions about this issue,
+starting with the work of Jonathan Baxter (COLT 1995) "Learning internal
+representations". The argument is about capacity
+and sharing it across tasks so as to achieve better generalization. The lower
+layers implement features that can potentially be shared across tasks. As long
+as some sharing is possible (because the same features can be useful for several
+tasks), then there is a potential benefit from shared
+internal representations. Whereas a one-hidden-layer MLP can only share linear
+features, a deep architecture can share non-linear ones which have the potential
+for representing more abstract concepts.
+
+Reviewer_5 about semi-supervised learning: In the unsupervised phase, no labels
+are used. In the supervised fine-tuning phase, all labels are used, so this is
+not the semi-supervised setting. This paper did not examine the potential
+advantage of exploiting large quantities of additional unlabeled data, but the
+availability of the generated dataset and of the learning setup would make it
+possible to easily conduct a study to answer this interesting
+question. Note however that previous work [5] already investigated the relative
+advantage of the semi-supervised setting for deep vs shallow architectures,
+which is why we did not focus on this here. It might still be worth to do these
+experiments because the deep learning algorithms were different.
+
+"...human errors may be present...": Indeed, there are variations across human
+labelings, which have have estimated (since each character
+was viewed by 3 different humans), and reported in the paper (the standard
+deviations across humans are large, but the standard error across a large test
+set is very small, so we believe the average error numbers to be fairly
+accurate).
+
+"...authors do cite a supplement, but I did not have access to it...": that is
+strange. We could (and still can) access it from the CMT web site. We will make
+sure to include a complete pseudo-code of SDAs in it.
+
+"...main contributions of the manuscript...": the main
+contribution is actually to show that the self-taught learning setting is more
+beneficial to deeper architectures.
+
+"...restriction to MLPs...": that restriction was motivated by the computational
+challenge of training on hundreds of millions of examples. Apart from linear
+models (which do not fare well on this task), it is not clear to us what 
+could be used, and so MLPs were the
+obvious candidates to compare with. We will explore the use of SVM
+approximations, as suggested by Reviewer_1. Other suggestions are welcome.
+
+"Reviewer 6:...novelty [..] is somewhat marginal since [...] reminiscent of
+prior work on character recognition using deformations and transformations".
+The main originality is in showing that deep learners can take more advantage
+than shallow learners of such data and of the self-taught learning framework in
+general.
+